[manjaro-dev] Fwd: Re: a couple of calamares questions

kendell clark coffeekingms at gmail.com
Fri Jul 8 04:00:38 CEST 2016

I have tried running orca as root. It does start but doesn't speak,
because pulse audio running as the logged in user isn't letting
speech-dispatcher, our speech server, make sound. I need to talk to
joanmeri, the orca developer to see if there's anything to be done. I
suspect she'll just tell me to have you guys fix calamares, but I'll at
least try.
Kendell Clark

Philip Müller wrote:
> Hi Teo,
> some what is going on at Sonar Linux side. Well, I still had no time to
> get into their issue with our old installer Thus. Some inside from your
> end what can be done in regard of Orca and "root" rights?
> @Kendell: did you tried yet a full root session to see if Orca is
> running then?
> greez
> Phil
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: [manjaro-dev] a couple of calamares questions
> Datum: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 23:42:55 -0500
> Von: kendell clark <coffeekingms at gmail.com>
> An: manjaro-dev at manjaro.org <manjaro-dev at manjaro.org>
> hi
> I would also accept help on our sonar branding. A lot of the info
> calamares seems to want are missing. We've got the basics, version,
> distro name, short version name, etc. But we're missing the url's, boot
> loader entry, etc. Bernhard, would you mind helping me with that since
> you probably know more about calamares branding than I do? I'm going to
> look over it right now to make sure the file doesn't contain any
> mistakes. I suspect it might, since the stable version of calamares
> segfaults immediately after the first screen and the development one
> throws up it's crash reporter lol. I'm no expert on yaml cintax, and in
> fact know very little about it.
> Thanks
> Kendell Clark
> kendell clark wrote:
>> hi all
>> I'm in the last stages of bugfixing before the final sonar 2016.07
>> release. The thus installer is proving to be a mess and the bugs haven't
>> gotten fixed yet. I'm not writing to complain about thus though, but to
>> try to see if anyone knows how I might use calamares instead. Calamares
>> is completely accessible when run as the logged in user with calamares
>> -d. I mean completely accessible. Labeled controls and everything.
>> Fantastic installer. However, when I press the next button, it
>> immediately crashes and launches the crash reporter. Great tool by the
>> way. I know calamares needs root privilages to do it's job but would it
>> be possible to have it go through policy kit or pam, using a pam config
>> file or something? I've said this numerous times before so I won't
>> repeat the entire convoluted tangle, but apps run as root are invisible
>> to orca. I'm writing in to hope that someone might know how to rig up
>> calamares so that sonar users can use it to install, replacing thus
>> which you guys desperately want to get rid of and which we're happy to
>> see go. I tried to get the paldo people to let us use their installer
>> but I never could get it working right with manjaro. @teo: you're the
>> only one who apart from phil has been willing to work with me on fixing
>> calamares's accessibility issues. Is this possible, what I'm trying to
>> do? Run calamares with the privilages of a normal user and yet it be
>> able to elevate when needed? The alternative could also be to separate
>> calamares out into a daemon and ui process. The daemon could run as
>> root, and the ui could run as logged in user, that way orca would be
>> able to see it and interact with it but you guys wouldn't have to
>> rewrite calamares from the ground up just for us blind users, which I
>> realize is a lot of work. No new thus issues have cropped up by the way,
>> just the freezing after keyboard layout and the accessibility issues.
>> Thanks
>> Kendell Clark
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