[manjaro-dev] Fwd: Re: a couple of calamares questions

Philip Müller philm at manjaro.org
Thu Jul 7 16:56:39 CEST 2016

Hi Teo,

some what is going on at Sonar Linux side. Well, I still had no time to
get into their issue with our old installer Thus. Some inside from your
end what can be done in regard of Orca and "root" rights?

@Kendell: did you tried yet a full root session to see if Orca is
running then?


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Betreff: Re: [manjaro-dev] a couple of calamares questions
Datum: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 23:42:55 -0500
Von: kendell clark <coffeekingms at gmail.com>
An: manjaro-dev at manjaro.org <manjaro-dev at manjaro.org>

I would also accept help on our sonar branding. A lot of the info
calamares seems to want are missing. We've got the basics, version,
distro name, short version name, etc. But we're missing the url's, boot
loader entry, etc. Bernhard, would you mind helping me with that since
you probably know more about calamares branding than I do? I'm going to
look over it right now to make sure the file doesn't contain any
mistakes. I suspect it might, since the stable version of calamares
segfaults immediately after the first screen and the development one
throws up it's crash reporter lol. I'm no expert on yaml cintax, and in
fact know very little about it.
Kendell Clark

kendell clark wrote:
> hi all
> I'm in the last stages of bugfixing before the final sonar 2016.07
> release. The thus installer is proving to be a mess and the bugs haven't
> gotten fixed yet. I'm not writing to complain about thus though, but to
> try to see if anyone knows how I might use calamares instead. Calamares
> is completely accessible when run as the logged in user with calamares
> -d. I mean completely accessible. Labeled controls and everything.
> Fantastic installer. However, when I press the next button, it
> immediately crashes and launches the crash reporter. Great tool by the
> way. I know calamares needs root privilages to do it's job but would it
> be possible to have it go through policy kit or pam, using a pam config
> file or something? I've said this numerous times before so I won't
> repeat the entire convoluted tangle, but apps run as root are invisible
> to orca. I'm writing in to hope that someone might know how to rig up
> calamares so that sonar users can use it to install, replacing thus
> which you guys desperately want to get rid of and which we're happy to
> see go. I tried to get the paldo people to let us use their installer
> but I never could get it working right with manjaro. @teo: you're the
> only one who apart from phil has been willing to work with me on fixing
> calamares's accessibility issues. Is this possible, what I'm trying to
> do? Run calamares with the privilages of a normal user and yet it be
> able to elevate when needed? The alternative could also be to separate
> calamares out into a daemon and ui process. The daemon could run as
> root, and the ui could run as logged in user, that way orca would be
> able to see it and interact with it but you guys wouldn't have to
> rewrite calamares from the ground up just for us blind users, which I
> realize is a lot of work. No new thus issues have cropped up by the way,
> just the freezing after keyboard layout and the accessibility issues.
> Thanks
> Kendell Clark

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