[manjaro-dev] OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
Patrice Esclapion
esclapion at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 12:30:07 CEST 2016
Seems really interesting, and this company exists since 2002.
What is available as
- ssh ?
- moving between accounts ?
- download counters, and stats ?
2016-04-15 12:00 GMT+02:00 <manjaro-dev-request at manjaro.org>:
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> 1. Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux (Philip M?ller)
> 2. Re: Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux (Rob McCathie)
> 3. Re: Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux (kendell clark)
> 4. a couple of issues I need help with (kendell clark)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:03:38 +0200
> From: Philip M?ller <philm at manjaro.org>
> To: manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> Subject: [manjaro-dev] Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> Message-ID: <5710843A.30907 at manjaro.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:11:37 +0900
> Von: Shuji Sado <sado at osdn.jp>
> Organisation: OSDN
> An: Philip M?ller <philm at manjaro.org>, support at manjaro.org, Roland
> Singer <roland.singer at desertbit.com>
>
>
>
> Manjaro Linux?admin,
>
> $ wget
>
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/manjarolinux/release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
>
> First,action first before thinking too deeply, I would like you to try
> running the command above.
> Try several times to see the download speed and the logic that's behind
> how mirror is chosen.
> Was it good enough to meet your standard?
>
> FYI:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/settings/mirror_choices?projectname=manjarolinux&filename=release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
>
> $ wget
>
> http://osdn.jp/dl/clonezilla/clonezilla-live-src-20160210-wily-amd64.ubuntu.tar
>
> Next, I would like you to try downloading the 0.8GB file which is released
> by Clonezilla who just very recently joined osdn.
> And after that, please give some time to think how different the
> download speed and the logic for choosing mirror are from the case with
> your release files.
>
> Regarding Manjaro Linux's recent release files on SF.net, most of them
> are not
> placed in North America and Asia. Also, SF.net is deprived of the
> ability to
> provide the logic to choose the optimum mirror for the users.
>
> In January of this year, SF.net was sold to a dishonest SEO company, and
> they
> have lost so much of the engineering resources.
> Also, since the website was sold, there are rampant SEO contents and
> malware on SF.net.
> Moreover, their mirror system is so disintegrated that it has reached a
> point
> where you can say it is broken-down.
>
> As to the link, http://manjaro.github.io/download/, which you show your
> users
> for downloading, upon visiting, users in North America and Asia will have
> to
> endure patiently for 8 to 24 hours of long time to download.
> When we contacted you a few months ago, the situation wasn?t so terrible,
> but I had expected the situation to get worse as it is now.
> Would you be interested in moving Manjaro Linux's iso releases on SF.net
> to OSDN?
> We can help you with the moving of the contents from SF.net.
>
> We just recently helped Clonezilla project move to OSDN.
> https://osdn.jp/projects/clonezilla/
> All release files of 200GB have been moved, and currently OSDN is
> processing
> download accesses for them from around the world.
>
> Here I listed the strong points of our current OSDN in comparison with
> SF.net.
>
> - OSDN's mirror network is more powerful than SF.net, especially in
> North America
> and Asia, we are way more powerful.
> - OSDN's ad space is more subtle than SF.net. At the same time,
> we eliminate malicious ads everyday.
> - We completely remove website Malware, and this is one of the things that
> make us different from SF.net.
> - We completely remove proprietary and pirated software from our website,
> where as SF.net is rampant with those kinds of software.
> - OSDN has a feature which enables entering project's Descriptions or
> Release Notes in several languages.
> - OSDN has a feature that enables to handle file release via API and
> Command Line Tool.
> https://osdn.jp/swagger-ui/
> https://osdn.jp/projects/osdn-codes/wiki/CommandLineInterface
> - Unlike SF.net, OSDN builds network based on global public oss mirror
> sites.
> It's not what we encourage, but we won't deny users from directly
> downloading
> from public mirrors instead of OSDN website.
> ex.
> http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/osdn/clonezilla/64911/
> http://mirrors.gigenet.com/OSDN/clonezilla/64911/
> http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/sourceforge.jp/clonezilla/64911/
>
>
> We began a structure that returns a part of the revenue made from
> displaying ads
> during downloads via web. We call it DLShare, and it works by paying
> USD$100 per 150,000DL to the project side.
> It may not be a big sum of money, but it will serve as a steady means of
> earning an income.
>
> We can't tolerate to see great OSS projects get their reputations damaged
> by
> using SourceForge. There's nothing about us that is lesser than them,
> moreover
> there are some uniqueness in us that you won't see in them.
> Would you be interested in moving forward with us toward a good direction?
>
>
>
> ---
> Shuji Sado
> President & CEO, OSDN K.K.
> sado at osdn.jp
> sado at opensource.jp
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:16:50 +1000
> From: Rob McCathie <korrode at gmail.com>
> To: manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> Subject: Re: [manjaro-dev] Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> Message-ID:
> <CAOunMDHXwh2F8Lt2vgC73QFKd6hOdq=0iK4NBKM_akjmXs6o=
> Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On the surface at least, it sounds good!
>
> Will do a little investigating of their service later/tomorrow.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Philip M?ller <philm at manjaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > What do you guys think?
> >
> > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> > Betreff: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> > Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:11:37 +0900
> > Von: Shuji Sado <sado at osdn.jp>
> > Organisation: OSDN
> > An: Philip M?ller <philm at manjaro.org>, support at manjaro.org, Roland
> > Singer <roland.singer at desertbit.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > Manjaro Linux?admin,
> >
> > $ wget
> >
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/manjarolinux/release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
> >
> > First,action first before thinking too deeply, I would like you to try
> > running the command above.
> > Try several times to see the download speed and the logic that's behind
> > how mirror is chosen.
> > Was it good enough to meet your standard?
> >
> > FYI:
> >
> https://sourceforge.net/settings/mirror_choices?projectname=manjarolinux&filename=release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
> >
> > $ wget
> >
> http://osdn.jp/dl/clonezilla/clonezilla-live-src-20160210-wily-amd64.ubuntu.tar
> >
> > Next, I would like you to try downloading the 0.8GB file which is
> released
> > by Clonezilla who just very recently joined osdn.
> > And after that, please give some time to think how different the
> > download speed and the logic for choosing mirror are from the case with
> > your release files.
> >
> > Regarding Manjaro Linux's recent release files on SF.net, most of them
> > are not
> > placed in North America and Asia. Also, SF.net is deprived of the
> > ability to
> > provide the logic to choose the optimum mirror for the users.
> >
> > In January of this year, SF.net was sold to a dishonest SEO company, and
> > they
> > have lost so much of the engineering resources.
> > Also, since the website was sold, there are rampant SEO contents and
> > malware on SF.net.
> > Moreover, their mirror system is so disintegrated that it has reached a
> > point
> > where you can say it is broken-down.
> >
> > As to the link, http://manjaro.github.io/download/, which you show your
> > users
> > for downloading, upon visiting, users in North America and Asia will
> have to
> > endure patiently for 8 to 24 hours of long time to download.
> > When we contacted you a few months ago, the situation wasn?t so terrible,
> > but I had expected the situation to get worse as it is now.
> > Would you be interested in moving Manjaro Linux's iso releases on SF.net
> > to OSDN?
> > We can help you with the moving of the contents from SF.net.
> >
> > We just recently helped Clonezilla project move to OSDN.
> > https://osdn.jp/projects/clonezilla/
> > All release files of 200GB have been moved, and currently OSDN is
> processing
> > download accesses for them from around the world.
> >
> > Here I listed the strong points of our current OSDN in comparison with
> > SF.net.
> >
> > - OSDN's mirror network is more powerful than SF.net, especially in
> > North America
> > and Asia, we are way more powerful.
> > - OSDN's ad space is more subtle than SF.net. At the same time,
> > we eliminate malicious ads everyday.
> > - We completely remove website Malware, and this is one of the things
> that
> > make us different from SF.net.
> > - We completely remove proprietary and pirated software from our website,
> > where as SF.net is rampant with those kinds of software.
> > - OSDN has a feature which enables entering project's Descriptions or
> > Release Notes in several languages.
> > - OSDN has a feature that enables to handle file release via API and
> > Command Line Tool.
> > https://osdn.jp/swagger-ui/
> > https://osdn.jp/projects/osdn-codes/wiki/CommandLineInterface
> > - Unlike SF.net, OSDN builds network based on global public oss mirror
> > sites.
> > It's not what we encourage, but we won't deny users from directly
> > downloading
> > from public mirrors instead of OSDN website.
> > ex.
> > http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/osdn/clonezilla/64911/
> > http://mirrors.gigenet.com/OSDN/clonezilla/64911/
> > http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/sourceforge.jp/clonezilla/64911/
> >
> >
> > We began a structure that returns a part of the revenue made from
> > displaying ads
> > during downloads via web. We call it DLShare, and it works by paying
> > USD$100 per 150,000DL to the project side.
> > It may not be a big sum of money, but it will serve as a steady means of
> > earning an income.
> >
> > We can't tolerate to see great OSS projects get their reputations
> damaged by
> > using SourceForge. There's nothing about us that is lesser than them,
> > moreover
> > there are some uniqueness in us that you won't see in them.
> > Would you be interested in moving forward with us toward a good
> direction?
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Shuji Sado
> > President & CEO, OSDN K.K.
> > sado at osdn.jp
> > sado at opensource.jp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > manjaro-dev mailing list
> > manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> > http://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-dev
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 01:18:22 -0500
> From: kendell clark <coffeekingms at gmail.com>
> To: manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> Subject: Re: [manjaro-dev] Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> Message-ID: <571087AE.7000900 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> hi
> I can't comment on the malware accusation because I don't know one way
> or the other, but I have had lots of issues with sourceforge, to the
> point where i would desperately like to use anything else. But since
> we're part of manjaro now, I use what you guys use. I'm starting to get
> pointed questions from some of our new members. Things like most
> "serious" software programs don't use sourceforge, etc etc. I can't say
> whether that's true or not but I've had to delay iso images by weeks a
> few times, thankfully not recently, because sourceforge has been down in
> the past.
> Thanks
> Kendell Clark
>
>
> Philip M?ller wrote:
> > What do you guys think?
> >
> > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> > Betreff: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> > Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:11:37 +0900
> > Von: Shuji Sado <sado at osdn.jp>
> > Organisation: OSDN
> > An: Philip M?ller <philm at manjaro.org>, support at manjaro.org, Roland
> > Singer <roland.singer at desertbit.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > Manjaro Linux?admin,
> >
> > $ wget
> >
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/manjarolinux/release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
> >
> > First,action first before thinking too deeply, I would like you to try
> > running the command above.
> > Try several times to see the download speed and the logic that's behind
> > how mirror is chosen.
> > Was it good enough to meet your standard?
> >
> > FYI:
> >
> https://sourceforge.net/settings/mirror_choices?projectname=manjarolinux&filename=release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
> >
> > $ wget
> >
> http://osdn.jp/dl/clonezilla/clonezilla-live-src-20160210-wily-amd64.ubuntu.tar
> >
> > Next, I would like you to try downloading the 0.8GB file which is
> released
> > by Clonezilla who just very recently joined osdn.
> > And after that, please give some time to think how different the
> > download speed and the logic for choosing mirror are from the case with
> > your release files.
> >
> > Regarding Manjaro Linux's recent release files on SF.net, most of them
> > are not
> > placed in North America and Asia. Also, SF.net is deprived of the
> > ability to
> > provide the logic to choose the optimum mirror for the users.
> >
> > In January of this year, SF.net was sold to a dishonest SEO company, and
> > they
> > have lost so much of the engineering resources.
> > Also, since the website was sold, there are rampant SEO contents and
> > malware on SF.net.
> > Moreover, their mirror system is so disintegrated that it has reached a
> > point
> > where you can say it is broken-down.
> >
> > As to the link, http://manjaro.github.io/download/, which you show your
> > users
> > for downloading, upon visiting, users in North America and Asia will
> have to
> > endure patiently for 8 to 24 hours of long time to download.
> > When we contacted you a few months ago, the situation wasn?t so terrible,
> > but I had expected the situation to get worse as it is now.
> > Would you be interested in moving Manjaro Linux's iso releases on SF.net
> > to OSDN?
> > We can help you with the moving of the contents from SF.net.
> >
> > We just recently helped Clonezilla project move to OSDN.
> > https://osdn.jp/projects/clonezilla/
> > All release files of 200GB have been moved, and currently OSDN is
> processing
> > download accesses for them from around the world.
> >
> > Here I listed the strong points of our current OSDN in comparison with
> > SF.net.
> >
> > - OSDN's mirror network is more powerful than SF.net, especially in
> > North America
> > and Asia, we are way more powerful.
> > - OSDN's ad space is more subtle than SF.net. At the same time,
> > we eliminate malicious ads everyday.
> > - We completely remove website Malware, and this is one of the things
> that
> > make us different from SF.net.
> > - We completely remove proprietary and pirated software from our website,
> > where as SF.net is rampant with those kinds of software.
> > - OSDN has a feature which enables entering project's Descriptions or
> > Release Notes in several languages.
> > - OSDN has a feature that enables to handle file release via API and
> > Command Line Tool.
> > https://osdn.jp/swagger-ui/
> > https://osdn.jp/projects/osdn-codes/wiki/CommandLineInterface
> > - Unlike SF.net, OSDN builds network based on global public oss mirror
> > sites.
> > It's not what we encourage, but we won't deny users from directly
> > downloading
> > from public mirrors instead of OSDN website.
> > ex.
> > http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/osdn/clonezilla/64911/
> > http://mirrors.gigenet.com/OSDN/clonezilla/64911/
> > http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/sourceforge.jp/clonezilla/64911/
> >
> >
> > We began a structure that returns a part of the revenue made from
> > displaying ads
> > during downloads via web. We call it DLShare, and it works by paying
> > USD$100 per 150,000DL to the project side.
> > It may not be a big sum of money, but it will serve as a steady means of
> > earning an income.
> >
> > We can't tolerate to see great OSS projects get their reputations
> damaged by
> > using SourceForge. There's nothing about us that is lesser than them,
> > moreover
> > there are some uniqueness in us that you won't see in them.
> > Would you be interested in moving forward with us toward a good
> direction?
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Shuji Sado
> > President & CEO, OSDN K.K.
> > sado at osdn.jp
> > sado at opensource.jp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > manjaro-dev mailing list
> > manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> > http://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-dev
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 01:29:26 -0500
> From: kendell clark <coffeekingms at gmail.com>
> To: manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> Subject: [manjaro-dev] a couple of issues I need help with
> Message-ID: <57108A46.3090802 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> hi all
> I'm just about to release new sonar gnome images since gnome 3.20 has
> hit the repositories. However, I'm having a couple of issues I need help
> with. Our sonar gnome settings package might need to be updated. Our
> orca settings are not being used. Gnome also starts with accessibility
> turned off. I can of course easily enable it with alt+windows+s, but
> since sonar is an accessible distro it's supposed to come up talking.
> Would it be possible to add a shortcut to launch a terminal like exists
> in mate? If so, it should be bound to alt+control+t so that it's
> similar to mate. My last issue is hard to track down. With the release
> of gnome 3.20, our gnome image jumped from 1.8 gb to 2.0 gb in size, and
> the only thing I added was the tintin alteraeon sound pack, which, once
> an update is pushed out will only take up 265k on disk. I hope I don't
> sound like I'm complaining, I'm not at all. You guys do absolutely
> fantastic work and sonar would nto exist without you. I'm just bringing
> these up so they can get looked into, I've got some calamares bugs to
> track down and fix. I want to personally thank bernhard and phil mooler
> for their work on our gsettings stuff. You guys did some stuff that I
> didn't even know could be done and you've made sonar look much more
> professional as a result. We've changed how sonar is distributed. We
> start out with alpha builds, which is the stage we're currently in., We
> then move to beta after a couple of weeks. After a couple of more weeks
> we move into the final stage, with an rc or two if there are critical
> bugs, otherwise we move straight from beta to final release. I
> instituted this after a couple of embarrassing bugs I should've caught
> before release. That reminds me. The desktop icons don't seem to be
> renamed in our gnome image. Sorry, I completely forgot about that one.
> I'll check and see if copying the desktop items script into the desktop
> settings for gnome has any effect.
> Thanks
> Kendell Clark
>
>
>
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