[manjaro-dev] Fwd: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux

[kendell clark]

hi
I can't comment on the malware accusation because I don't know one way
or the other, but I have had lots of issues with sourceforge, to the
point where i would desperately like to use anything else. But since
we're part of manjaro now, I use what you guys use. I'm starting to get
pointed questions from some of our new members. Things like most
"serious" software programs don't use sourceforge, etc etc. I can't say
whether that's true or not but I've had to delay iso images by weeks a
few times, thankfully not recently, because sourceforge has been down in
the past.
Thanks
Kendell Clark


Philip Müller wrote:
> What do you guys think?
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: OSDN Proposal for Manjaro Linux
> Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:11:37 +0900
> Von: Shuji Sado <sado at osdn.jp>
> Organisation: OSDN
> An: Philip Müller <philm at manjaro.org>, support at manjaro.org, Roland
> Singer <roland.singer at desertbit.com>
>
>
>
> Manjaro Linux　admin,
>
>  $ wget
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/manjarolinux/release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
>
> First,action first before thinking too deeply, I would like you to try
> running the command above.
> Try several times to see the download speed and the logic that's behind
> how mirror is chosen.
> Was it good enough to meet your standard?
>
> FYI:
> https://sourceforge.net/settings/mirror_choices?projectname=manjarolinux&filename=release/16.06-pre2/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.06-pre2-x86_64.iso
>
>  $ wget
> http://osdn.jp/dl/clonezilla/clonezilla-live-src-20160210-wily-amd64.ubuntu.tar
>
> Next, I would like you to try downloading the 0.8GB file which is released
> by Clonezilla who just very recently joined osdn.
> And after that, please give some time to think how different the
> download speed and the logic for choosing mirror are from the case with
> your release files.
>
> Regarding Manjaro Linux's recent release files on SF.net, most of them
> are not
> placed in North America and Asia.  Also, SF.net is deprived of the
> ability to
> provide the logic to choose the optimum mirror for the users.
>
> In January of this year, SF.net was sold to a dishonest SEO company, and
> they
> have lost so much of the engineering resources.
> Also, since the website was sold, there are rampant SEO contents and
> malware on SF.net.
> Moreover, their mirror system is so disintegrated that it has reached a
> point
> where you can say it is broken-down.
>
> As to the link, http://manjaro.github.io/download/, which you show your
> users
> for downloading, upon visiting, users in North America and Asia will have to
> endure patiently for 8 to 24 hours of long time to download.
> When we contacted you a few months ago, the situation wasn’t so terrible,
> but I had expected the situation to get worse as it is now.
> Would you be interested in moving Manjaro Linux's iso releases on SF.net
> to OSDN?
> We can help you with the moving of the contents from SF.net.
>
> We just recently helped Clonezilla project move to OSDN.
>  https://osdn.jp/projects/clonezilla/
> All release files of 200GB have been moved, and currently OSDN is processing
> download accesses for them from around the world.
>
> Here I listed the strong points of our current OSDN in comparison with
> SF.net.
>
> - OSDN's mirror network is more powerful than SF.net, especially in
> North America
>  and Asia, we are way more powerful.
> - OSDN's ad space is more subtle than SF.net. At the same time,
>  we eliminate malicious ads everyday.
> - We completely remove website Malware, and this is one of the things that
>  make us different from SF.net.
> - We completely remove proprietary and pirated software from our website,
>  where as SF.net is rampant with those kinds of software.
> - OSDN has a feature which enables entering project's Descriptions or
> Release Notes in several languages.
> - OSDN has a feature that enables to handle file release via API and
> Command Line Tool.
>  https://osdn.jp/swagger-ui/
>  https://osdn.jp/projects/osdn-codes/wiki/CommandLineInterface
> - Unlike SF.net, OSDN builds network based on global public oss mirror
> sites.
>  It's not what we encourage, but we won't deny users from directly
> downloading
>  from public mirrors instead of OSDN website.
>  ex.
>   http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/osdn/clonezilla/64911/
>   http://mirrors.gigenet.com/OSDN/clonezilla/64911/
>   http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/sourceforge.jp/clonezilla/64911/
>
>
> We began a structure that returns a part of the revenue made from
> displaying ads
> during downloads via web.  We call it DLShare, and it works by paying
> USD$100 per 150,000DL to the project side.
> It may not be a big sum of money, but it will serve as a steady means of
> earning an income.
>
> We can't tolerate to see great OSS projects get their reputations damaged by
> using SourceForge.  There's nothing about us that is lesser than them,
> moreover
> there are some uniqueness in us that you won't see in them.
> Would you be interested in moving forward with us toward a good direction?
>
>
>
> ---
> Shuji Sado
> President & CEO, OSDN K.K.
> sado at osdn.jp
> sado at opensource.jp
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> manjaro-dev mailing list
> manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> http://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-dev