[manjaro-dev] Regarding manjaro and the upcoming Calamares Installer
Philip Müller
philm at manjaro.org
Sun Feb 15 19:03:48 CET 2015
Some thoughts on Manjaro by Jesper Larsen. What do you think ?!?
Am 15.02.2015 um 18:28 schrieb Jesper Larsen:
> Hi Phil,
>
> Thanks for you mail....yes I should also say that I really like the
> XFCE version.....the layout is really great...right now besides
> Windows 10 build 9926 I have the two linux systems Manjaro 0.9 KDE and
> Korora 21 GNOME installed on my PC
>
> You should consider telling the guys working on the GNOME version of
> Manjaro that they should consider using the circular numix icon theme
> from Korora 21 GNOME and combine it with beautiful Manjaro wallpapers
> and the well known dark Manjaro look and feel :-) - it would look
> really awesome.
>
> Another thing you might consider is to take a look at the fonts in
> Octopi of the KDE version....the small fonts are not very sharp and a
> bit difficult to read and needs a sharp color I think...You might
> consider using a larger and more black font colour instead ??
>
> Finally you should take a look at the Moun Software Center in the
> upcoming Kubuntu 15.04 KDE Plasma version - I have been thinking for a
> while if it would be possible to create a new Package manager for
> Manjaro (named Manjaro Software Center or App Store) inspired from
> this new Muon look.
>
> My suggestion would be:
>
> 1) Develop a new easy-to-use default software manager named Manjaro
> Software Center or (Manjaro App Store) for all your desktop variants
> based on/inspired by the layout and source code from the upcoming
> Kubuntu 15.04 Muon version. For example Muon could be modified to work
> with Arch systems and have full AUR support too. Would that be
> something worth considering ?
>
> 2) To still have an alternative more advanced software manager you
> could merge Octopi with Pamac into just one package manager still
> named Octopi, as they are very similar. Octopi is really great.
>
> It would be great to have two options for installing software - the
> Muon based (default) and the merged Pamac/octopi alternative
>
> Just small things - everything stills works really great and it is
> running extremely stable considering it is still a development version
>
> Kind Regards
> Jesper
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:57:32 +0100
> From: philm at manjaro.org
> To: jeela76 at outlook.com; manjaro-dev at manjaro.org
> CC: assassin.anex at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Regarding manjaro and the upcoming Calamares Installer
>
> Hi Jesper,
>
> thx for your feedback. I'm only the XFCE install media maintainer. I
> didn't had much time to take a closer look at Lane's work.
>
> @anex: what do you think?
>
> kind regards
> Phil
>
> Am 14.02.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Jesper Larsen:
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> You are welcome :-)..I installed the latest version of Manjaro 0.9
> development version yesterday
>
> I like this grey-green KDE5 plasma splash screen that appears
> after logging in...and I also like the default dark KDE look you
> have made
>
> The slideshow in the Calamares installer also looks very
> professional - I like that
>
> I don't know about the fonts in the beginning (in KDE5 plasma
> splash screen) - maybe you should consider using a more clear and
> modern font ?? I mean where you have typed "Enjoy the Simplicity"
> and "Manjaro KDE")
>
> is it KDM you are using as login manager ??
>
> I haven't tried the Manjaro GNOME CE 0.9 yet - previously when I
> used it there was no Manjaro logo in the GDM login screen - only
> the default GDM - Have you added such a logo in GDM now - then
> maybe you might consider adding the Manjaro Logo ? openSUSE,
> Fedora and Ubuntu GNOME have added their logo and name in GDM
> below the password
>
> You might also consider using the beautiful black-grey-green
> flower artwork from the latest KDE version (or another artwork) as
> background in GDM instead of the default grey background :-) ?
>
> Best
> Jesper
>
>
>
> > To: jeela76 at outlook.com <mailto:jeela76 at outlook.com>
> > Subject: RE: Regarding manjaro and the upcoming Calamares Installer
> > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:38:51 +0100
> > From: philm at manjaro.org <mailto:philm at manjaro.org>
> > CC: assassin.anex at gmail.com <mailto:assassin.anex at gmail.com>
> >
> > Hi Jesper,
> >
> > thx for the flowers. Lane will do his best to make our KDE5 Edition
> > awesome. All suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > kind regards
> > Phil
> >
> > Am 2015-02-13 12:06, schrieb Jesper Larsen:
> > > Hi Phil,
> > >
> > > I just want to say the new Manjaro 0.9 looks just great - I
> like the
> > > new Calamares Installer much better than Thus and think it is
> better.
> > >
> > > I have a question regarding the KDE version of Manjaro, will
> you be
> > > using the vanilla KDE 5 Plasma framework look, which I really like
> > > (like in Kubuntu 15.04 Alpha) or are you planning to add some
> darker
> > > Manjaro specific KDE themes, which would also be great ?
> > >
> > > Also I was thinking that maybe you could make a more
> dynamic/animation
> > > Manjaro boot splash screen for the 0.9 series ? I.e where the
> Manjaro
> > > logo (and word mark) gradually appears and then fades away or
> > > something similar instead of the one you use now ?
> > >
> > > Anyway, it is a really great and professionally looking distro and
> > > definitely my favourite one :-)
> > >
> > > I look forward to follow the future development...
> > >
> > > Have a fantastic day
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:11:41 +0200
> > > From: philm at manjaro.org <mailto:philm at manjaro.org>
> > > To: jeela76 at outlook.com <mailto:jeela76 at outlook.com>;
> manjaro-dev at manjaro.org <mailto:manjaro-dev at manjaro.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Regarding manjaro and the upcoming Calamares
> Installer
> > >
> > > Hi Jesper,
> > >
> > > I answer you some questions as I've no time right now to
> answer them
> > > all.
> > >
> > > Regarding packages. It depends which mirror you're using. Some are
> > > outdated. Use the german one netzspielplatz. It syncs with our
> main
> > > server every 5 minutes.
> > >
> > > http://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/manjaro/packages/ [1]
> > >
> > > Also join the mailing list to get notice when we update stuff:
> > >
> > > https://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-packages [2]
> > >
> > > For KDE, we are working on a new design and hopefully fix the
> issues
> > > you're facing.
> > >
> > > kind regards
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > Am 10.10.2014 um 15:31 schrieb Jesper Larsen:
> > >
> > >> Hi Philip,
> > >>
> > >> First I want to say that I really think Manjaro is a fantastic OS
> > >> and I find it to be one of the best linux distros out there.
> You and
> > >> the team are really doing a great job and it just gets better and
> > >> better. I think the new calamares installer looks really
> great too
> > >> and I look forward to see it replacing the thus installer.
> Another
> > >> thing I like is the login screen of the manjaro 0.8.11 pre2 KDE
> > >> version, which I am currently running.
> > >>
> > >> However I have some suggestions for features that I think you
> might
> > >> consider adding to the Manjaro 0.9 series and Calamares if
> > >> technically possible.
> > >>
> > >> I have been using Antergos and bridge Linux also for a while and
> > >> what I like about these systems is that I can get all the latest
> > >> packages from Arch and that they are almost as bleeding-edge as
> > >> Arch. However, it seems that I cannot get all the latest
> packages in
> > >> Manjaro even though I switch to upgrading from the unstable
> manjaro
> > >> repos
> > >>
> > >> So I was thinking if you could consider adding an option to the
> > >> Calamares installer - i.e. in an advanced/custom installer option
> > >> where the user can choose between the standard installation
> with the
> > >> stable, older packages and older kernel or the upstream and more
> > >> unstable, bleeding edge packages including the latest kernel from
> > >> the default Arch repositories?
> > >>
> > >> It would be really nice if the user already during the
> installation
> > >> could choose their default repository.
> > >>
> > >> I would therefore suggest the following options added to
> Calamares:
> > >>
> > >> Choose default Manjaro repository:
> > >>
> > >> Stable: This is the default repository, where the installed
> packages
> > >> and kernel are older but more thoroughĺy tested. Choosing this
> > >> option will lead to the most stable system.
> > >>
> > >> Testing: Choosing this repository leads to a less stable but more
> > >> bleeding-edge system. The packages and kernel are newer than
> those
> > >> in the stable repository but less tested, however they are
> assumed
> > >> to be stable enough for
> > >>
> > >> Unstable: Choosing this repository leads to the most
> bleeding-edge
> > >> manjaro system with the latest packages and latest kernel
> installed.
> > >> These packages have not been tested as much as the packages
> in the
> > >> testing repository and thus there is a higher risk of system
> break
> > >> downs.
> > >>
> > >> Arch repositories: Check this option to be able to install
> the very
> > >> latest and most upstream packages and kernel directly from
> the Arch
> > >> linux repositories - (packages that are more upstream than
> those in
> > >> the Manjaro unstable repository - most aggressively updated).
> > >>
> > >> Something like that...I hope you can use my ideas.
> > >>
> > >> Which python GUI are you using for modifying/editing the
> graphical
> > >> layout of Calamares ?
> > >>
> > >> Keep up the good work
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Jesper
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Links:
> > > ------
> > > [1] http://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/manjaro/packages/
> > > [2] https://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-packages
>
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