[manjaro-dev] next pacman

[Guillaume Benoit]

I'm on it. Revert the remove-syncfirst.patch doesn't work anymore so it 
will takes some time to test a new patch.

Guillaume.

Le 20/12/2014 08:25, Philip Müller a écrit :
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> pacman 4.2.0 just hit Arch-Testing. Can you take care of it and prepare
> some pacman and pamac packages so we can test them. There is no rush in
> it, as we can still keep pacman 4.1-series as long as we need to ...
>
> greez
> Phil
>
> Am 06.12.2014 um 15:56 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>> Ok, if it's better to have it configurable, we can just keep the
>> SyncFirst option.
>> Anyway, would you like me to modify the syncfirst patch to permit
>> pacman to not exit and continue the transaction or it would be a waste
>> of time?
>> Guillaume.
>>
>> Le 06/12/2014 14:59, Rob McCathie a écrit :
>>> manjaro-keyring and archlinux-keyring for starters, having them sync
>>> first would save some users from issues.
>>> Mainly it's for when a keyserver that holds a packager's key is down or
>>> is having connections problems for the user - this does happen, there's
>>> a number of examples on the forums - the manjaro-system script has no
>>> redundancy for this. It can also be problematic when a new signature
>>> gets added by Arch and an update for an already installed package is
>>> signed with it.
>>>
>>> Actually, in February this year Phil used manjaro-system to add the
>>> keyring packages to SyncFirst[1], but never adjusted the default
>>> pacman.conf in the pacman package, so new install medias made after that
>>> didn't have the change.
>>>
>>> Then in September i did it again[2] and this time also updated the stock
>>> pacman.conf so it would be permanent[3][4], however, shortly after Phil
>>> reverted the change[5]. I did ask why but never got any real
>>> explanation. ;-p
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/614b168d668183c4ff291b967b8a6ddf495e1af7#diff-a7315ea10d82bde98e13fc896f5b8bf9R79
>>>
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/ca7d3d40c47dc127c026239f0c0b4cc0f27c478e
>>>
>>>
>>> [3]
>>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/27fcb34afff225a5427594e965b506d0ded1a82c
>>>
>>>
>>> [4]
>>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/b5b8ddd357149fed78c94812f57e077f9d14a949
>>>
>>>
>>> [5]
>>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/802cb7ede9d376e2276b5f76d030249175752f41
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rob McCathie
>>>
>>> On 07/12/14 00:08, Philip Müller wrote:
>>>> Currently it is just manjaro-systems. I rather recommend to make it
>>>> configurable. For example with the SyncFirst= line or some extra
>>>> config file if needed. If we just create a function for just one
>>>> package it would make not much sense. Some people still have added the
>>>> keyring packages in SyncFirst= line. If you can config it it is much
>>>> more flexible for later needs.
>>>>
>>>> Am 06.12.2014 um 14:04 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>>>>> I'm open to all ideas, I just saw that manjaro-system is the only
>>>>> package that to be in SyncFirst.
>>>>> What are the other packages we have to take care of?
>>>>> Guillaume.
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 06/12/2014 12:37, Philip Müller a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is manjaro-systems the only package we have to take care of? Is it
>>>>>> better to some configuration so we can decide which packages
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> installed/checked first? Your patch is fine. I rather would have an
>>>>>> additional option to also check for other packages. Maybe we will
>>>>>> introduce something which needs the same checkings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... maybe I'm wrong and we can handle all with manjaro-system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 05.12.2014 um 15:50 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>>>>>>> As some of you already know, pacman 4.2 should be released this
>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>> I already worked on porting pamac to this new version because it
>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>> with some API changes.
>>>>>>> I also worked on an idea I had now I know better pacman an libalpm
>>>>>>> concerning SyncFirst option.
>>>>>>> Manjaro comes with a custom version a pacman with a revert patch to
>>>>>>> continue to use SyncFirst even if it has been deprecated by pacman
>>>>>>> developers. The only reason is to update manjaro-system package
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> to perform some actions before the real update.
>>>>>>> I propose a 30 lines patch to replace syncfirst patch which permits
>>>>>>> two things:
>>>>>>> -- avoid the usage of syncfirst option in /etc/pacman.conf
>>>>>>> -- auto update manjaro-system package first when required and
>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>> the transaction with the need to relaunch pacman.
>>>>>>> To allow you to have an idea I join a PKGBUILD with the new patch.
>>>>>>> This a first version of the patch, I you have some idea to improve,
>>>>>>> tell me.
>>>>>>> What do you think about it ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guillaume.
>>>>>>>
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