[manjaro-dev] next pacman

[Philip Müller]

Hi Guillaume,

pacman 4.2.0 just hit Arch-Testing. Can you take care of it and prepare 
some pacman and pamac packages so we can test them. There is no rush in 
it, as we can still keep pacman 4.1-series as long as we need to ...

greez
Phil

Am 06.12.2014 um 15:56 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
> Ok, if it's better to have it configurable, we can just keep the 
> SyncFirst option.
> Anyway, would you like me to modify the syncfirst patch to permit 
> pacman to not exit and continue the transaction or it would be a waste 
> of time?
> Guillaume.
>
> Le 06/12/2014 14:59, Rob McCathie a écrit :
>> manjaro-keyring and archlinux-keyring for starters, having them sync
>> first would save some users from issues.
>> Mainly it's for when a keyserver that holds a packager's key is down or
>> is having connections problems for the user - this does happen, there's
>> a number of examples on the forums - the manjaro-system script has no
>> redundancy for this. It can also be problematic when a new signature
>> gets added by Arch and an update for an already installed package is
>> signed with it.
>>
>> Actually, in February this year Phil used manjaro-system to add the
>> keyring packages to SyncFirst[1], but never adjusted the default
>> pacman.conf in the pacman package, so new install medias made after that
>> didn't have the change.
>>
>> Then in September i did it again[2] and this time also updated the stock
>> pacman.conf so it would be permanent[3][4], however, shortly after Phil
>> reverted the change[5]. I did ask why but never got any real
>> explanation. ;-p
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/614b168d668183c4ff291b967b8a6ddf495e1af7#diff-a7315ea10d82bde98e13fc896f5b8bf9R79 
>>
>>
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/ca7d3d40c47dc127c026239f0c0b4cc0f27c478e 
>>
>>
>> [3]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/27fcb34afff225a5427594e965b506d0ded1a82c 
>>
>>
>> [4]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/b5b8ddd357149fed78c94812f57e077f9d14a949 
>>
>>
>> [5]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/802cb7ede9d376e2276b5f76d030249175752f41 
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rob McCathie
>>
>> On 07/12/14 00:08, Philip Müller wrote:
>>> Currently it is just manjaro-systems. I rather recommend to make it
>>> configurable. For example with the SyncFirst= line or some extra
>>> config file if needed. If we just create a function for just one
>>> package it would make not much sense. Some people still have added the
>>> keyring packages in SyncFirst= line. If you can config it it is much
>>> more flexible for later needs.
>>>
>>> Am 06.12.2014 um 14:04 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>>>> I'm open to all ideas, I just saw that manjaro-system is the only
>>>> package that to be in SyncFirst.
>>>> What are the other packages we have to take care of?
>>>> Guillaume.
>>>>
>>>> Le 06/12/2014 12:37, Philip Müller a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>
>>>>> is manjaro-systems the only package we have to take care of? Is it
>>>>> better to some configuration so we can decide which packages 
>>>>> should be
>>>>> installed/checked first? Your patch is fine. I rather would have an
>>>>> additional option to also check for other packages. Maybe we will
>>>>> introduce something which needs the same checkings.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... maybe I'm wrong and we can handle all with manjaro-system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 05.12.2014 um 15:50 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>>>>>> As some of you already know, pacman 4.2 should be released this 
>>>>>> month.
>>>>>> I already worked on porting pamac to this new version because it 
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> with some API changes.
>>>>>> I also worked on an idea I had now I know better pacman an libalpm
>>>>>> concerning SyncFirst option.
>>>>>> Manjaro comes with a custom version a pacman with a revert patch to
>>>>>> continue to use SyncFirst even if it has been deprecated by pacman
>>>>>> developers. The only reason is to update manjaro-system package 
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> to perform some actions before the real update.
>>>>>> I propose a 30 lines patch to replace syncfirst patch which permits
>>>>>> two things:
>>>>>> -- avoid the usage of syncfirst option in /etc/pacman.conf
>>>>>> -- auto update manjaro-system package first when required and 
>>>>>> continue
>>>>>> the transaction with the need to relaunch pacman.
>>>>>> To allow you to have an idea I join a PKGBUILD with the new patch.
>>>>>> This a first version of the patch, I you have some idea to improve,
>>>>>> tell me.
>>>>>> What do you think about it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guillaume.
>>>>>>
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