[manjaro-dev] next pacman

[Philip Müller]

If you find time to do so, why not ...

Am 06.12.2014 um 15:56 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
> Ok, if it's better to have it configurable, we can just keep the 
> SyncFirst option.
> Anyway, would you like me to modify the syncfirst patch to permit 
> pacman to not exit and continue the transaction or it would be a waste 
> of time?
> Guillaume.
>
> Le 06/12/2014 14:59, Rob McCathie a écrit :
>> manjaro-keyring and archlinux-keyring for starters, having them sync
>> first would save some users from issues.
>> Mainly it's for when a keyserver that holds a packager's key is down or
>> is having connections problems for the user - this does happen, there's
>> a number of examples on the forums - the manjaro-system script has no
>> redundancy for this. It can also be problematic when a new signature
>> gets added by Arch and an update for an already installed package is
>> signed with it.
>>
>> Actually, in February this year Phil used manjaro-system to add the
>> keyring packages to SyncFirst[1], but never adjusted the default
>> pacman.conf in the pacman package, so new install medias made after that
>> didn't have the change.
>>
>> Then in September i did it again[2] and this time also updated the stock
>> pacman.conf so it would be permanent[3][4], however, shortly after Phil
>> reverted the change[5]. I did ask why but never got any real
>> explanation. ;-p
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/614b168d668183c4ff291b967b8a6ddf495e1af7#diff-a7315ea10d82bde98e13fc896f5b8bf9R79 
>>
>>
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/ca7d3d40c47dc127c026239f0c0b4cc0f27c478e 
>>
>>
>> [3]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/27fcb34afff225a5427594e965b506d0ded1a82c 
>>
>>
>> [4]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/b5b8ddd357149fed78c94812f57e077f9d14a949 
>>
>>
>> [5]
>> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/commit/802cb7ede9d376e2276b5f76d030249175752f41 
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rob McCathie
>>
>> On 07/12/14 00:08, Philip Müller wrote:
>>> Currently it is just manjaro-systems. I rather recommend to make it
>>> configurable. For example with the SyncFirst= line or some extra
>>> config file if needed. If we just create a function for just one
>>> package it would make not much sense. Some people still have added the
>>> keyring packages in SyncFirst= line. If you can config it it is much
>>> more flexible for later needs.
>>>
>>> Am 06.12.2014 um 14:04 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>>>> I'm open to all ideas, I just saw that manjaro-system is the only
>>>> package that to be in SyncFirst.
>>>> What are the other packages we have to take care of?
>>>> Guillaume.
>>>>
>>>> Le 06/12/2014 12:37, Philip Müller a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>
>>>>> is manjaro-systems the only package we have to take care of? Is it
>>>>> better to some configuration so we can decide which packages 
>>>>> should be
>>>>> installed/checked first? Your patch is fine. I rather would have an
>>>>> additional option to also check for other packages. Maybe we will
>>>>> introduce something which needs the same checkings.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... maybe I'm wrong and we can handle all with manjaro-system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 05.12.2014 um 15:50 schrieb Guillaume Benoit:
>>>>>> As some of you already know, pacman 4.2 should be released this 
>>>>>> month.
>>>>>> I already worked on porting pamac to this new version because it 
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> with some API changes.
>>>>>> I also worked on an idea I had now I know better pacman an libalpm
>>>>>> concerning SyncFirst option.
>>>>>> Manjaro comes with a custom version a pacman with a revert patch to
>>>>>> continue to use SyncFirst even if it has been deprecated by pacman
>>>>>> developers. The only reason is to update manjaro-system package 
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> to perform some actions before the real update.
>>>>>> I propose a 30 lines patch to replace syncfirst patch which permits
>>>>>> two things:
>>>>>> -- avoid the usage of syncfirst option in /etc/pacman.conf
>>>>>> -- auto update manjaro-system package first when required and 
>>>>>> continue
>>>>>> the transaction with the need to relaunch pacman.
>>>>>> To allow you to have an idea I join a PKGBUILD with the new patch.
>>>>>> This a first version of the patch, I you have some idea to improve,
>>>>>> tell me.
>>>>>> What do you think about it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guillaume.
>>>>>>
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