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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jesper,<br>
<br>
seems you might still not get it completely. Netrunner Rolling is
based on Manjaro. Calamares is a BlueSystems project. Netrunner
too. Which install do you think the will use? Joining either of
our projects would be fine. Looking forward to that.<br>
<br>
kind regards<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
Am 16.02.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Jesper Larsen:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Phil,<br>
<br>
Thanks for explaining it in more detail - I have used Netrunner
Rolling too and it is also really a great distro...it sounds
great about Muon for Netrunner Rolling - so that it is not only
used for the Netrunner Kubuntu based edition - I haven't tried
that so much, so I didn't really know that it used Muon, but
since it is kubuntu-based it makes sense :-)<br>
<br>
Does that also mean that the Netrunner Rolling will continue
using Thus as installer or will it also switch to Calamares at
some point in the future ? <br>
<br>
I can see that I might have misunderstood something regarding
Pamac and Octopi :-). I suggested it because in my opinion a
higher degree of standardization between different linux distros
is worth focusing on - but of course there might be situations
where it does not make sense to merge projects.<br>
<br>
I think it is a good idea to focus on Calamares. By the way, I
tried to install the KaOSx KDE plasma edition a few days ago,
which also uses Calamares now, and it crashed during
installation :-( - however, I had no problems installing Manjaro
0.9 with calamares.<br>
<br>
But great that you are considering Muon for Manjaro in the
future.<br>
<br>
I am considering joining the Manjaro project in the future to
contribute to the development, but I need to get more experience
with programming first, as I just started recently - focusing on
Python GUI programming.<br>
<br>
Have a nice day <br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
Jesper<br>
<br>
<br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:11:05 +0100<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org">philm@manjaro.org</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jeela76@outlook.com">jeela76@outlook.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Regarding manjaro and the upcoming Calamares
Installer<br>
<br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Hi Jesper,<br>
<br>
sure we will. As we are sponsored by BlueSystems and Manjaro
is the base of Netrunner Rolling we might be lucky to have
Muon soon on Netrunner also for the Rolling release.
Currently BlueSystems and we are focusing on Calamares, our
new installer. Muon is also sponsored and supported by
BlueSystems, so I see no problem there.<br>
<br>
Joining Pamac and Octopi will never happen. These are
different development targets. Regarding themes, we will
always try to improve them.<br>
<br>
kind regards<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
Am 15.02.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Jesper Larsen:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ok...that's nice...hope you can use the
suggestions :-)<br>
<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:04:26
+0100<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org">philm@manjaro.org</a><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:jeela76@outlook.com">jeela76@outlook.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Regarding manjaro and the upcoming
Calamares Installer<br>
<br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Hi Jesper,<br>
<br>
thx again for your feedback. We will look into it ...<br>
<br>
kind regards<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
Am 15.02.2015 um 18:28 schrieb Jesper Larsen:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Phil,<br>
<br>
Thanks for you mail....yes I should also say that I
really like the XFCE version.....the layout is
really great...right now besides Windows 10 build
9926 I have the two linux systems Manjaro 0.9 KDE
and Korora 21 GNOME installed on my PC<br>
<br>
You should consider telling the guys working on the
GNOME version of Manjaro that they should consider
using the circular numix icon theme from Korora 21
GNOME and combine it with beautiful Manjaro
wallpapers and the well known dark Manjaro look and
feel :-) - it would look really awesome.<br>
<br>
Another thing you might consider is to take a look
at the fonts in Octopi of the KDE version....the
small fonts are not very sharp and a bit difficult
to read and needs a sharp color I think...You might
consider using a larger and more black font colour
instead ??<br>
<br>
Finally you should take a look at the Moun Software
Center in the upcoming Kubuntu 15.04 KDE Plasma
version - I have been thinking for a while if it
would be possible to create a new Package manager
for Manjaro (named Manjaro Software Center or App
Store) inspired from this new Muon look.<br>
<br>
My suggestion would be:<br>
<br>
1) Develop a new easy-to-use default software
manager named Manjaro Software Center or (Manjaro
App Store) for all your desktop variants based
on/inspired by the layout and source code from the
upcoming Kubuntu 15.04 Muon version. For example
Muon could be modified to work with Arch systems and
have full AUR support too. Would that be something
worth considering ? <br>
<br>
2) To still have an alternative more advanced
software manager you could merge Octopi with Pamac
into just one package manager still named Octopi, as
they are very similar. Octopi is really great.<br>
<br>
It would be great to have two options for installing
software - the Muon based (default) and the merged
Pamac/octopi alternative <br>
<br>
Just small things - everything stills works really
great and it is running extremely stable considering
it is still a development version<br>
<br>
Kind Regards <br>
Jesper <br>
<br>
<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015
15:57:32 +0100<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org">philm@manjaro.org</a><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:jeela76@outlook.com">jeela76@outlook.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:manjaro-dev@manjaro.org">manjaro-dev@manjaro.org</a><br>
CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:assassin.anex@gmail.com">assassin.anex@gmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Regarding manjaro and the upcoming
Calamares Installer<br>
<br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Hi Jesper,<br>
<br>
thx for your feedback. I'm only the XFCE install
media maintainer. I didn't had much time to take
a closer look at Lane's work.<br>
<br>
@anex: what do you think?<br>
<br>
kind regards<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
Am 14.02.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Jesper Larsen:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Phil,<br>
<br>
You are welcome :-)..I installed the latest
version of Manjaro 0.9 development version
yesterday<br>
<br>
I like this grey-green KDE5 plasma splash
screen that appears after logging in...and I
also like the default dark KDE look you have
made<br>
<br>
The slideshow in the Calamares installer also
looks very professional - I like that<br>
<br>
I don't know about the fonts in the beginning
(in KDE5 plasma splash screen) - maybe you
should consider using a more clear and modern
font ?? I mean where you have typed "Enjoy the
Simplicity" and "Manjaro KDE")<br>
<br>
is it KDM you are using as login manager ?? <br>
<br>
I haven't tried the Manjaro GNOME CE 0.9 yet -
previously when I used it there was no Manjaro
logo in the GDM login screen - only <br>
the default GDM - Have you added such a logo
in GDM now - then maybe you might consider
adding the Manjaro Logo ? openSUSE, Fedora and
Ubuntu GNOME have added their logo and name in
GDM below the password<br>
<br>
You might also consider using the beautiful
black-grey-green flower artwork from the
latest KDE version (or another artwork) as
background in GDM instead of the default grey
background :-) ? <br>
<br>
Best<br>
Jesper<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:jeela76@outlook.com">jeela76@outlook.com</a><br>
> Subject: RE: Regarding manjaro and the
upcoming Calamares Installer<br>
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:38:51 +0100<br>
> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org">philm@manjaro.org</a><br>
> CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:assassin.anex@gmail.com">assassin.anex@gmail.com</a><br>
> <br>
> Hi Jesper,<br>
> <br>
> thx for the flowers. Lane will do his
best to make our KDE5 Edition <br>
> awesome. All suggestions are welcome.<br>
> <br>
> kind regards<br>
> Phil<br>
> <br>
> Am 2015-02-13 12:06, schrieb Jesper
Larsen:<br>
> > Hi Phil,<br>
> > <br>
> > I just want to say the new Manjaro
0.9 looks just great - I like the<br>
> > new Calamares Installer much
better than Thus and think it is better.<br>
> > <br>
> > I have a question regarding the
KDE version of Manjaro, will you be<br>
> > using the vanilla KDE 5 Plasma
framework look, which I really like<br>
> > (like in Kubuntu 15.04 Alpha) or
are you planning to add some darker<br>
> > Manjaro specific KDE themes, which
would also be great ?<br>
> > <br>
> > Also I was thinking that maybe you
could make a more dynamic/animation<br>
> > Manjaro boot splash screen for the
0.9 series ? I.e where the Manjaro<br>
> > logo (and word mark) gradually
appears and then fades away or<br>
> > something similar instead of the
one you use now ?<br>
> > <br>
> > Anyway, it is a really great and
professionally looking distro and<br>
> > definitely my favourite one :-)<br>
> > <br>
> > I look forward to follow the
future development...<br>
> > <br>
> > Have a fantastic day<br>
> > <br>
> > Jesper<br>
> > <br>
> > -------------------------<br>
> > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:11:41
+0200<br>
> > From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org">philm@manjaro.org</a><br>
> > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:jeela76@outlook.com">jeela76@outlook.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:manjaro-dev@manjaro.org">manjaro-dev@manjaro.org</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: Regarding manjaro and
the upcoming Calamares Installer<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi Jesper,<br>
> > <br>
> > I answer you some questions as
I've no time right now to answer them<br>
> > all.<br>
> > <br>
> > Regarding packages. It depends
which mirror you're using. Some are<br>
> > outdated. Use the german one
netzspielplatz. It syncs with our main<br>
> > server every 5 minutes.<br>
> > <br>
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/manjaro/packages/"
target="_blank">http://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/manjaro/packages/</a>
[1]<br>
> > <br>
> > Also join the mailing list to get
notice when we update stuff:<br>
> > <br>
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-packages"
target="_blank">https://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-packages</a>
[2]<br>
> > <br>
> > For KDE, we are working on a new
design and hopefully fix the issues<br>
> > you're facing.<br>
> > <br>
> > kind regards<br>
> > Phil<br>
> > <br>
> > Am 10.10.2014 um 15:31 schrieb
Jesper Larsen:<br>
> > <br>
> >> Hi Philip,<br>
> >> <br>
> >> First I want to say that I
really think Manjaro is a fantastic OS<br>
> >> and I find it to be one of the
best linux distros out there. You and<br>
> >> the team are really doing a
great job and it just gets better and<br>
> >> better. I think the new
calamares installer looks really great too<br>
> >> and I look forward to see it
replacing the thus installer. Another<br>
> >> thing I like is the login
screen of the manjaro 0.8.11 pre2 KDE<br>
> >> version, which I am currently
running.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> However I have some
suggestions for features that I think you
might<br>
> >> consider adding to the Manjaro
0.9 series and Calamares if<br>
> >> technically possible.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> I have been using Antergos and
bridge Linux also for a while and<br>
> >> what I like about these
systems is that I can get all the latest<br>
> >> packages from Arch and that
they are almost as bleeding-edge as<br>
> >> Arch. However, it seems that I
cannot get all the latest packages in<br>
> >> Manjaro even though I switch
to upgrading from the unstable manjaro<br>
> >> repos<br>
> >> <br>
> >> So I was thinking if you could
consider adding an option to the<br>
> >> Calamares installer - i.e. in
an advanced/custom installer option<br>
> >> where the user can choose
between the standard installation with the<br>
> >> stable, older packages and
older kernel or the upstream and more<br>
> >> unstable, bleeding edge
packages including the latest kernel from<br>
> >> the default Arch repositories?<br>
> >> <br>
> >> It would be really nice if the
user already during the installation<br>
> >> could choose their default
repository.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> I would therefore suggest the
following options added to Calamares:<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Choose default Manjaro
repository:<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Stable: This is the default
repository, where the installed packages<br>
> >> and kernel are older but more
thoroughåy tested. Choosing this<br>
> >> option will lead to the most
stable system.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Testing: Choosing this
repository leads to a less stable but more<br>
> >> bleeding-edge system. The
packages and kernel are newer than those<br>
> >> in the stable repository but
less tested, however they are assumed<br>
> >> to be stable enough for<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Unstable: Choosing this
repository leads to the most bleeding-edge<br>
> >> manjaro system with the latest
packages and latest kernel installed.<br>
> >> These packages have not been
tested as much as the packages in the<br>
> >> testing repository and thus
there is a higher risk of system break<br>
> >> downs.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Arch repositories: Check this
option to be able to install the very<br>
> >> latest and most upstream
packages and kernel directly from the Arch<br>
> >> linux repositories - (packages
that are more upstream than those in<br>
> >> the Manjaro unstable
repository - most aggressively updated).<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Something like that...I hope
you can use my ideas.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Which python GUI are you using
for modifying/editing the graphical<br>
> >> layout of Calamares ?<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Keep up the good work<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Best Regards<br>
> >> Jesper<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Links:<br>
> > ------<br>
> > [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/manjaro/packages/"
target="_blank">http://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/manjaro/packages/</a><br>
> > [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-packages"
target="_blank">https://lists.manjaro.org/mailman/listinfo/manjaro-packages</a><br>
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