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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ah , I get your point . I don't have a
clue how it would go ,but still best of luck in the endeavour :)<br>
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Petko<br>
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<div>True there are plenty such distros, but keep in mind that
for all the other major packaging systems users have the
option of rolling or static.<br>
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<div>For aptitude based distros there's rolling and static
options, for RPM based distros there is... but for
pacman-based distros there's only Frugalware, which I tried a
while back and it and it's forked pacman are a mess. Look at
one of their 'FrugalBuild' files:<br>
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<div>They took the elegance and simplicity of Arch's packaging
system and tried to supplement it with huge, complex scripts.
It certainly isn't something I consider an option.<br>
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<div>Anyways my point is there's a niche remaining in the
'market' - pacman based static distro.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Petko
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<div>Just my 2 cents - I think there are enough 'freeze'
distros out there . That's what's unique about Manjaro -
that it's faster pace , but still one notch below Arch ,
so there's the added stability . I'd be happy to see the
project expand , but the frozen-distro user-base has a
lot of fully developed fully focused competitors for it.<span
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On 11/07/2013 08:28 AM, Philip Müller wrote:<br>
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<div>This is possible and we already have some ideas
regarding this topic. Actually Roland is working
on such a thing with a different prospective. This
will mean a different concept as we have it now.
Also lots of testing. When we have some we can
inform you. Might also want to look at frugalware,
which basically does this concept you're talking
about.<br>
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Rolling releases have some downs but we try to fix
them. We already slowed it down a little but most
of the people need or like the current speed.<br>
I think adding a longer testing period in testing
might help to get it much more stable. Maybe you
point me to the edges on our current concept and
what you miss right now.<br>
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On 11/07/2013 01:25 AM, Rob wrote:<br>
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<div>What do you all think of the
concept of a Manjaro 'static' (or i
guess we could loosely use the term
'LTS'), non-rolling branch?<br>
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<div>It would give users an option where
update woes are only a possibility
once or twice a year, instead of the
potential for regular issues that
comes with rolling. (The forums seem
to be proving my point more and more
every week.)<br>
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I realise if such a thing were to be
implemented within the Manjaro
infrastructure it means like 66% more
space needed on every mirror (based on
a 2-branch model).<br>
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<div>FYI I'm kinda-sorta-probably
planning to do it even if you guys
aren't interested ;p<br>
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So, is there any interest in running such a
thing within Manjaro infrastructure?<br>
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If you're interested, I'm willing to commit
a lot of my time to it. I'm willing to
pretty much oversee the whole branch if
desired, including doing all the initial
testing at update times myself, etc.<br>
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However, If it were to happen, I'd greatly
prefer all updates added to the repo be
checked/approved by 2 people, so I would
need to find one other person with plenty of
packaging experience (and general Linux
knowledge) to commit to it and be the second
set of eyes signing off on package updates
with me.<br>
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