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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ah , I get your point . I don't have a
      clue how it would go ,but still best of luck in the endeavour :)<br>
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      Petko<br>
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      On 11/07/2013 02:00 PM, Rob McCathie wrote:<br>
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        <div>True there are plenty such distros, but keep in mind that
          for all the other major packaging systems users have the
          option of rolling or static.<br>
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        <div>For aptitude based distros there's rolling and static
          options, for RPM based distros there is... but for
          pacman-based distros there's only Frugalware, which I tried a
          while back and it and it's forked pacman are a mess. Look at
          one of their 'FrugalBuild' files:<br>
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        <div>They took the elegance and simplicity of Arch's packaging
          system and tried to supplement it with huge, complex scripts.
          It certainly isn't something I consider an option.<br>
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        <div>Anyways my point is there's a niche remaining in the
          'market' - pacman based static distro.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Petko
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              <div>Just my 2 cents - I think there are enough 'freeze'
                distros out there . That's what's unique about Manjaro -
                that it's faster pace , but still one notch below Arch ,
                so there's the added stability . I'd be happy to see the
                project expand , but the frozen-distro user-base has a
                lot of fully developed fully focused competitors for it.<span
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                    Petko</font></span>
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                    On 11/07/2013 08:28 AM, Philip Müller wrote:<br>
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                    <div>This is possible and we already have some ideas
                      regarding this topic. Actually Roland is working
                      on such a thing with a different prospective. This
                      will mean a different concept as we have it now.
                      Also lots of testing. When we have some we can
                      inform you. Might also want to look at frugalware,
                      which basically does this concept you're talking
                      about.<br>
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                      Rolling releases have some downs but we try to fix
                      them. We already slowed it down a little but most
                      of the people need or like the current speed.<br>
                      I think adding a longer testing period in testing
                      might help to get it much more stable. Maybe you
                      point me to the edges on our current concept and
                      what you miss right now.<br>
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                      On 11/07/2013 01:25 AM, Rob wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Heyas,<br>
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                                <div>What do you all think of the
                                  concept of a Manjaro 'static' (or i
                                  guess we could loosely use the term
                                  'LTS'), non-rolling branch?<br>
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                                <div>It would give users an option where
                                  update woes are only a possibility
                                  once or twice a year, instead of the
                                  potential for regular issues that
                                  comes with rolling. (The forums seem
                                  to be proving my point more and more
                                  every week.)<br>
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                                  I realise if such a thing were to be
                                  implemented within the Manjaro
                                  infrastructure it means like 66% more
                                  space needed on every mirror (based on
                                  a 2-branch model).<br>
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                                <div>FYI I'm kinda-sorta-probably
                                  planning to do it even if you guys
                                  aren't interested ;p<br>
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                            So, is there any interest in running such a
                            thing within Manjaro infrastructure?<br>
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                            If you're interested, I'm willing to commit
                            a lot of my time to it. I'm willing to
                            pretty much oversee the whole branch if
                            desired, including doing all the initial
                            testing at update times myself, etc.<br>
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                            However, If it were to happen, I'd greatly
                            prefer all updates added to the repo be
                            checked/approved by 2 people, so I would
                            need to find one other person with plenty of
                            packaging experience (and general Linux
                            knowledge) to commit to it and be the second
                            set of eyes signing off on package updates
                            with me.<br>
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                          Regards,<br>
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                        Rob.<br>
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