<div dir="ltr">Well, again I'll test it thoroughly, so we should get away without too many RCs. I have three latops to test it on, with a fourth being bought tomorrow.<div><br></div><div>And no, only two are mine.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 November 2013 19:22, Philip Müller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org" target="_blank">philm@manjaro.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    <div>Well, it can only be this change. I
      don't care to use syslinux4 for our live-medias. It makes no sense
      at all to ship something broken. It changed with RC1 so we can
      change it back with RC3 and test it again. I still hope we don't
      have to do a RC4 or so. Thus gets only translations and small
      bugfixes. I don't plan to add any new feature to it now. Also
      Antergos just add some normal code to Cnchi ... <br>
      <br>
      Am 06.11.2013 20:20, schrieb Carl Duff:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">The joys of a bleeding edge system, eh?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 6 November 2013 19:17, Philip Müller
          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org" target="_blank">philm@manjaro.org</a>></span>
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              <div>I think it should simply work. I might have to modify
                manjaroiso once more to get the old isolinux menu
                running.<br>
                I adapted to syslinux 6-series. Lets see what is needed
                for syslinux 4-series to be restored ...<br>
                Currently I'm compiling some kernels.<br>
                <br>
                Am 06.11.2013 20:14, schrieb Carl Duff:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Checked pre3, RC1, RC2,  and this
                      seems to be correct.
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                      <div>If you make the change, then I will test the
                        ISO thoroughly, both in a VM and for real ASAP.
                        Just let me know when.</div>
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                        We (as in people who know about this stuff) will
                        also have to think of any possible long-term
                        ramifications...</div>
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                      <div>Carl</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On 6 November 2013 19:06,
                        Philip Müller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philm@manjaro.org" target="_blank">philm@manjaro.org</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                            <div>If I'm correct we have followed
                              versions of syslinux used for our images:<br>
                              <br>
                              <a href="http://0.8.7.1" target="_blank">0.8.7.1</a>:   
                                 syslinux 4.07-1<br>
                              0.8.8pre3:   syslinux 4.07-1<br>
                              0.8.8rc1:     syslinux 6.02-3<br>
                              0.8.8rc2:     syslinux 6.02-4<br>
                              <br>
                              So I can create a new package called
                              syslinux4 we can use for our livecd and
                              see what happens.<br>
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                              Am 06.11.2013 17:03, schrieb Carl Duff:<br>
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                                  <div>Will do - thanks for the links.</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>My layman intuition is starting
                                    to suspect that the issue may be
                                    linked to the implementation of <strong>Syslinux

                                      6.02 multi-fs</strong>.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    This post on your forum may also be
                                    related: <a href="https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1346285" target="_blank">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1346285</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>Best Wishes,</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                    Carl</div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 6 November
                                    2013 15:04, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vmlinuz386@yahoo.com.ar" target="_blank">vmlinuz386@yahoo.com.ar</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
                                    <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hello,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      No.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      @Carl: Please report to <a href="http://bugzilla.syslinux.org/" target="_blank">http://bugzilla.syslinux.org/</a>
                                      in ISOLINUX to be<br>
                                      specific, and maybe also sent a
                                      message to syslinux mailing-lists.
                                      Thanks.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Good Luck<br>
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                                          On 11/06/2013 09:34 AM, Allan
                                          McRae wrote:<br>
                                          > Gerardo,<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Do you have any insight
                                          into this?<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Allan<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > -------- Original Message
                                          --------<br>
                                          > Subject:      Re: Arch
                                          boot problem<br>
                                          > Date:         Wed, 6 Nov
                                          2013 11:40:35 +0000<br>
                                          > From:         Carl Duff
                                          <<a href="mailto:cdrw2400@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdrw2400@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                          > To:   Allan McRae <<a href="mailto:allan@archlinux.org" target="_blank">allan@archlinux.org</a>><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Hi Allan,<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > I believe so, although my
                                          Linux skills are far too poor
                                          at present to<br>
                                          > provide any more detailed
                                          information.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Our 0.8.7 release
                                          installs fine via CD/DVD on
                                          non-UEFI systems, whilst<br>
                                          > 0.8.8 RC2 does not. I
                                          believe there was an update to
                                          SysLinux 6 in this<br>
                                          > time, but cannot say if
                                          this is related.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Issue was verified by
                                          Phil, and both of us used
                                          multiple burners at<br>
                                          > multiple speeds. Same
                                          issue with the latest Arch
                                          ISO. As Datasticks<br>
                                          > (using dd) work fine, I
                                          don't think it's a BIOS
                                          problem at our end.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > By the way, won't make a
                                          habit of going through you
                                          with matters like this.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Carl<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > On 6 November 2013 04:28,
                                          Allan McRae <<a href="mailto:allan@archlinux.org" target="_blank">allan@archlinux.org</a><br>
                                          > <mailto:<a href="mailto:allan@archlinux.org" target="_blank">allan@archlinux.org</a>>>


                                          wrote:<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          >     Thanks.   I have
                                          forwarded this on to the
                                          relevant people.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          >     Does your "same for
                                          Manjaro" indicate this is an
                                          issue brought in with a<br>
                                          >     software update?<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          >     Allan<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          >     On 04/11/13 05:23,
                                          Carl Duff wrote:<br>
                                          >     > Also the same
                                          issue with i686 systems.<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     > PS - ever find
                                          yourself in London, I know a
                                          lovely Woodoven pizza<br>
                                          >     place.<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     > Carl<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     > On 3 November
                                          2013 18:15, Carl Duff <<a href="mailto:cdrw2400@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdrw2400@gmail.com</a><br>
                                          >     <mailto:<a href="mailto:cdrw2400@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdrw2400@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                          >     > <mailto:<a href="mailto:cdrw2400@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdrw2400@gmail.com</a>
                                          <mailto:<a href="mailto:cdrw2400@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdrw2400@gmail.com</a>>>>


                                          wrote:<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     >     Hi Allan,<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     >     Just to let
                                          you know that the latest Arch
                                          ISO is unlikely to boot<br>
                                          >     >     from CD /
                                          DVD on non-UEFI 64-bit
                                          machines. Try it, and you'll
                                          get<br>
                                          >     >     the
                                          following error message:
                                          *ISOLINUX 6.02 ETCDisolinux:
                                          Disk<br>
                                          >     error<br>
                                          >     >     01, AX =
                                          4279, drive FE*<br>
                                          >     >     *<br>
                                          >     >     *<br>
                                          >     >     Should still
                                          work if using a usb data
                                          stick. Same for Manjaro.<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     >     Apologies if
                                          someone has already raised
                                          this elsewhere; I do not<br>
                                          >     >     frequent the
                                          Arch forums.<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     >     Carl<br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          >     ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          ><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
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                                      <span><font color="#888888">--<br>
                                          Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi<br>
                                          \cos^2\alpha + \sin^2\alpha =
                                          1<br>
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